What is seen cannot be unseen

[naomi_jay]

I apologise in advance for bringing this film to your attention. I'm not pro-censorship, but this film had me rethinking that stance. But I need to purge myself, so I'm going to talk about it.

So two days ago, whilst trawling for something to watch after watching the amazing Insidious, Kyle and I stumbled upon a trailer for A Serbian Film.  I won't recap the plot here, because you can very easily find that for yourself and I'd rather not think about it in detail, but it looked to be a typical torture porn flick, and whilst I'm not a torture porn fan, I was in the mood for more horror, so we ... um ... "acquired" a copy of it, but decided to save it to watch with our friend Dave. So last night we watched it.

I'm not squeamish. I'm not easily offended. I'm not unaware of how vicious human beings can be. I want you to keep that all in mind, dear reader, before I go any further. I am pretty hard to shock, I'm pretty anti-PC, and I'm very much "each to their own." With that in mind, this film sickened me. Genuinely. I haven't been able to stop thinking about it since. None of us have, actually. It's more or less all we've talked about today. I don't think I've ever had such a visceral, physical reaction to anything I've seen before. I went on Twitter afterwards to be like, "wow, I really wish I hadn't watched that," which of course makes people curious, but really? I would not, could not recommend this film on any level.

 

It's ultra-violent, sexually depraved, psychologically disturbing, and shot in a glossy, highly-polished way which, along with the provocative title and unpleasant soundtrack, lead me to believe it's been deliberately aimed at the American market. It's like "you wanna see something really fucked up? We've got it!" I'm not against ultra-violent, fucked-up films per se (I love A Clockwork Orange), but I can't emphasis enough how deeply disturbing this film was.

 

So, because when something affects me in a profound way, be it positive or negative, I become I obsessed with it, I spent a lot of time today looking up reactions to and commentaries on A Serbian Film. The director is quoted as saying "This is a diary of our own molestation by the Serbian government... It's about the monolithic power of leaders who hypnotize you to do things you don't want to do," and basically claiming the whole thing is an allegory for the Serbian conflict and the atrocities committed during and since. Well, I'm not going to argue with the director's interpretation of his own film, but I will say it's very easy to retroactively ascribe meaning to art that wasn't there to begin with. Night of the Living Dead, for example, is generally held up as a commentary on the Vietnam war, and whilst it does work as a metaphor for the conflict, you'll be hard-pressed to find quotes from Romero to prove that was his intent back in 1968.

 

Given the nature of A Serbian Film, the boundary pushing, the taboo breaking, the inhumanity of the characters, and the glee that seems present in the slick presentation of it all, it's hard for me to see a political or social commentary here. There are plenty of films that comment on the Serbian situation that do so without resorting to paedophilia, necrophilia, or rape. I'm very dubious of any critique of a film that thinks ascribing a high concept to scenes of intense violence somehow gives those scenes merit. I also think that if a director has to come out and tell you what his film was about, he did a poor job of directing it, in the same way that if a writer has to explain a character's actions to you, they're not writing well enough.

 

My other issue with the idea of sexual violence as a metaphor for ... anything, really stems from my deep dislike of rape as a plot device. So often in comic books, films, and novels, rape is a shortcut to another plot point. The heroine develops magical powers, for example, as a result of sexual assault. I'm sure we're supposed to view this as empowering - the victim overcoming her trauma to become something greater - but so often, whether intentionally or not, the actual assault ends up being swept under the carpet and trivialised because, well, she got her super power, right?

 

In A Serbian Film, there are numerous graphic rape scenes, one or two of which made me very glad I hadn't eaten yet, and if the director and supporters of the film are to be believed, these are allegories for the horrors of war, analogies for how Serbia has been fucked over by the West. Well you know what? War is already horrible. You don't need to turn it into baby rape to get your point across. I don't need to see women being beheaded during sex to understand that people have died in horrible ways. If the director honestly had a political message, it's lost amidst the shocking imagery. And once again, I want to stress that making something shocking does not make it intelligent or meaningful.

I'm very much of the opinion that if something - however disquieting, upsetting, or disturbing - happens in real life, it's worth discussing in fiction. I'm also of the opinion that violence for the sake of violence is unnecessary and unhelpful in such discussions. If A Serbian Film has a message, it was lost on me because all I could think about afterwards was how unrelentingly horrific the film was. I did not finish watching and immediately pause to reflect on the nature of war, or how governments across the world mistreat their citizens, because my mind just didn't make the connection between snuff films and political corruption. Maybe I'm not sophisticated enough to be analysing a film like this?

 

Whatever. The cynical part of me can't help but think the director is clapping his hands in joy at the hype surrounding this film. I also couldn't help compare it to another "shock value" movie of recent years, my old favourite, The Human Centipede. Of course, I came away from THC feeling very different. That's a film that set out to be shocking and failed because the concept was so ludicrous it was impossible to take seriously. In contrast A Serbian Film is so violently shocking that any deeper meaning it might have is absolutely lost. It's an assault on the senses, whereas THC is just an assault on common sense. Everything about ASF, from the score to the dialogue, is designed to sicken the viewer.

 

Now, one review I read noted that this is exactly the intent, and that people will either shy away from and attack the content because they can't accept this sort of thing really happens (it's worth noting the director says every act portrayed in the film actually happened during war-era Serbia, something there's just no way to verify, so let's leave that alone), or accept it with a sick resignation. I haven't figured out yet which camp I fall into because I'm still processing the emotional affect the film had on me. And I know some people will say that it had such an affect on me proves it's a film that works, but I disagree. Like I said, this film didn't leave me thinking about war or Serbia (aside from the title and the fact that it's shot in Serbian, there's nothing about ASF that screams Eastern Block, and it could as easily have taken place in ... I don't know, New York, London ... anywhere. Depravity is pretty universal, after all. It would be interesting to know how the Serbian cinema-going public feel about the film, or if renaming it would take weight away from the director's comments on it as a socio-political allegory). It left me thinking about how disgusting and disturbing it was.

 

If the director's aim was to shake people up, he succeeded. If his aim was to make them rethink their values or examine history more closely, he failed. So the film failed. If that was his intention. I'm not convinced it was; I just think it makes a nice justification for such unremitting torture. But again, making something shocking does not make it intelligent or meaningful.

 

In the end, I regret watching the film, and I regret the time I've already dedicated to thinking about it. I'll never forget it, I'll never rewatch it, and I'll never be convinced it was anything more than a brutal attempt to shock viewers. If you're thinking of watching it out of curiosity, my advice is simply "don't." There's nothing of value here. If you're going to watch it anyway, I would be interested in hearing other people's opinions/interpretations. Some people are calling this film an unflinching masterpiece for daring to delve so deeply into such dark territory. I don't buy it, but all art is subjective. You'd have to work pretty hard to convince me that this is any more a masterpiece, or any more worthy of critical analysis, than Hostel, Saw, or The Human Centipede. 

 

There's a lot more I could (and want to) say about ASF but I've already dedicated more time and energy to it than I want to on a Sunday afternoon, so I'll leave it there for now.

Comments

[naomi-jay.livejournal.com]

I'd be fascinated to hear your thoughts if/when you do watch it. I'd never advocate censorship, despite my opening comments, but there are so many scenes in this film that I could live without having seen, it's hard for me to feel they need to be there. The fact that the director insists it's all so ... I don't know, high-concept, just makes it worse in my opinion. I'd have more respect for him if he just came out and said, "yeah, I wanted to push buttons, I wanted to freak people out."

[intothenyght.livejournal.com]

I've never even heard of this film until I read this...I watched the trailer and I really have no desire to see it. I can already tell I'll have a hard time with it--not that I'm not a horror fan or squeamish, but pedophilia, rape, necrophilia? No, thanks. I did watch the Saw movies (the only decent one was the first, of course) and if the plot interests me, I'm willing to check it out. I'm not easily offended or turned off by violence if there is a purpose to it. It's not like my own writing isn't loaded up with violence in itself, but it's about war, not just for shits and giggles.

That said, thank you for the warning. I know when something like this pulls a visceral response out of you, it takes awhile to leave...it has happened to me before and I don't care for it to happen again!

[naomi-jay.livejournal.com]

I'm not easily offended or turned off by violence if there is a purpose to it

Same here. I've got a pretty high threshold for movie violence and I'm still surprised at how much I reacted to this when I think about it. I think it's how much of it was sexualised violence, more than just the violence itself. In the UK you cannot depict sexualised violence, so in a way I've been quite sheltered from that kind of viewing, despite having seen plenty of torture porn, actual porn, and general violence. So those images really embedded themselves into my consciousness, more than maybe straight ultra-violence would have.

[intothenyght.livejournal.com]

I think it's how much of it was sexualised violence, more than just the violence itself.

Yes, all of this and then some. I think that's what bothers me the most, even just from the trailer itself. If there's no sexual context (i.e. Saw) then I'm not nearly as affected. But there's just something about mixing the two that makes me feel vaguely nauseas.

[dwg.livejournal.com]

Going by this and what you said over Twitter, this looks to be another case of "just because you can doesn't mean you should." I only read the Wikipedia page and still wound up with a nightmare involving running away from rape o'clock. But what I got from the synopsis has nothing to do with what the director was quotes as saying that the movie was about. Likewise, I got nothing out of Splice that Vincenzo Natali said he wanted to explore in the movie. So, you can be as pretentious or lofty in your ideals, but if your movie does not actually say those things then you're a failure at storytelling.

I can handle vast amounts of violence in a movie so long as there's a purpose to it (hi there Martyrs), but I'm struggling to see what the purpose of this is other than to see just how far cinema and the audience can be pushed. It should be ridiculous - the synopsis pretty much reads like bad internet horror porn (skullfucking, srsly wtf. Also, rigor mortis does not work like that). But going by what you've said this pretty much skirts too close to real world attrocity than so OTT you can't buy into it ala The Human Centipede. And since I narrowly avoided being on a manufacture and distribution of child pornography case for jury duty, I am glad Wikipedia exists so I know I'm epically DNW over newborn rape. I can only imagine how many people will get sucked into this and wind up regretting it. It must be pretty telling that when you get to the reviews on Wikipedia that most of them are proclaim they'll never watch this movie again.

(Also, I see no funtimes coming out of this movie, unlike the eternal joy of Beloved 3-Hund.)

...I'm gonna stop typing now, I'm pretty sure I stopped making sense.

[naomi-jay.livejournal.com]

There are some really interesting discussions going on about whether this film genuinely does have a social commentary buried in there somewhere, but all I saw was button-pushing. You cannot include a scene like the baby scene and call it anything other than an attempt to cause moral outrage, IMO. I should watch Martyrs. That and Cannibal Holocaust are the films being mentioned the most as comparable to ASF.

[dwg.livejournal.com]

Martyrs was good. I know I babbled at length in email at you ono that one, but after a couple of months I've got this itch to rewatch it even knowing it's really not an easy thing to sit through. There's something weirdly compelling now that I know how it turns out to go back and see how things unfold. I'm trying to track down Irreversible to turn my brain to mush (most of my French cinematic experience has been pure crack - Arsene Lupin and Atomik Circus are so delightfully weird) but no luck at the rental place. I may have to turn to the internets.

It's been bugging me and I finally hit on what ASF reminds me of: Out Are The Lights and Other Stories by Richard Laymon, where the main story is a theatre that shows grindhouse style horror movies that turn out to be actual snuff films but in a more slasher horror way rather than porn (and no babies!). The only way some detective finds out about it is because he was trying to date a deaf girl and she could lip read, while the movies themselves were dubbed. The deaf girl had a jerk of an ex boyfriend, thus her involvement with a detective. I don't remember the rest of the plot, but I think the dude that was making the movies had a motive to make them other than that he could. There may have been some kind of comeuppance with the jerk ex in a movie, but I haven't read this since high school.

So the plot for ASF isn't anything particularly revolutionary or new, which means I'm really not at all buying into the director's claims of deep and meaningful socio-political commentary based on the Wikipedia article. Maybe he really believes it, or maybe he's trying to find a way to spin it to justify the movie he made. At least Tom Six was honest about THC.

[spiderling.livejournal.com]

I am NOT a fan of torture porn movies and I don't watch them. I find them ridiculous in premise more often than not and they serve no real purpose in even being made except to make money for someone.

But I DO really like real serial killers and find them a lot more interesting.

Oh- and wasn't Insidious good??? I thoroughly enjoyed it.

LOL to I Am The Toast- I HATE HATE HATE Requium for a Dream to the point that I tell everyone I know NOT to watch it. I am sorry i watched it, it was nauseating and terrible. I DID like Pi though... Aronofsky is hit or miss for me.

Also that movie Blindness with Julieanne Moore- it hit on everything I hate and I finally quit watching it. I have become a lot less tolerant of things I don't like. Halfway through the movie I decided "I don't want this in my head" and shut it off. And that's how I feel about more and more things. Do I want it in my head or not? And that is my criteria.

And speaking of THC- Southpark already did a spoof of it :)
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s15e01-humancentipad#w=05.27.2011

[naomi-jay.livejournal.com]

Lol, I saw that Southpark episode last week! Laughed so hard.

And yeah, Insidious was great - not at all what I expected!

[ozma914.livejournal.com]

I think I'll pass.

[naomi-jay.livejournal.com]

Probably the safe choice.