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Dirty Little Whirlwind ([personal profile] naomi_jay) wrote2010-05-28 09:38 am
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The Boleyns would make awesome werewolves

Which is why I'm giving some serious thought to writing a Tudor werewolf novel. I mean, I've thought about it before, but when [livejournal.com profile] madlee276  was down here recently, we watched season two of the Tudors, and that has me thinking about it more seriously. Like how I'd actually do it. What parts of history I'd change, and how the court of Henry VIII being comprised largely of werewolves would affect things.

Right off the bat, I'd get rid of Jane Seymour. No way werewolf Anne Boleyn would let that prissy little tramp wriggle her way into Henry's bed when she could just have her torn apart in a "hunting accident." I'd keep Katherine of Aragon. I toyed with having her die giving birth to Mary, but then you either have to get rid of the entire break with Rome, or find another reason for it happening. So instead I think Mary would be stillborn (maybe Katherine shapeshifted too much during the pregnancy? And so when Anne falls pregnant with Elizabeth, Henry is all OMFGNOSHAPESHIFTING FOR NINE MONTHS!!! and she's just laid up in bed getting more and more impatient and claustrophobic). So, anyway, Mary is stillborn, so Henry has a flap about not having an heir, and legitmises Henry Fitzroy, leaving the way clear for Bessie Blount to compete with Anne for the position of mistress, and ultimately queen. And with Henry the legitimate heir, Anne has to work that much harder to secure any kind of future for Elizabeth. No Jane Seymour means no Edward VI. No Mary means it's just Henry Fitzroy and Elizabeth competing for the heir position...

No Jane Seymour also means Anne probably wouldn't be executed, at least not in 1536. Maybe Henry's eye still wanders after all the miscarriages and stillborns, and he'd probably still take Katherine Howard as a mistress. I could cut out Anne of Cleves, but not Katherine Howard. I mean, she was an utter airhead who probably deserved to be executed, but she'd be a fun character to have around. And the idea of some smackdown between Anne and Henry over his giggly childish mistress is pretty appealing. I mean, eventually Anne would have to go, but I see her lasting a lot longer than she did in real life, and maybe even having another child.

Anyway, as for the rest of the country, I figure that whilst the royal and noble houses are mostly werewolves, the commoners, not so much. The first thing Henry VII did when he took the throne was implement a law to have common werewolf children drowned at birth. Means the chances of a bloody werewolf revolt against the new, unpopular king was less likely to happen. And it showed those pesky peasants who the boss was. So werewolves are pretty rare amongst the lower classes, and probably all end up being shipped off to monastaries or nunneries to hide them from the Wolf Finders, or something. I guess Henry VIII would be a bit less militant about it, because all he really wants to do is start fights with Francis I.

Anyway... I have no idea when I'm going to write this. But I feel I must!

[identity profile] dwg.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 09:06 am (UTC)(link)
YES. TO ALL OF THIS. YES. Mostly for the smackdown between Anne and Henry over his airhead mistress.

Also, Henry could have learned from the whole Joan of Arc thing that peasant werewolves would not be a good idea. There can still be civil unrest due to the peasant wolf policy.

This opens up all kinds of funtimes for the later shenanigans, such as Charles II, his exile, and then the plague/Great Fire of London and Restoration. AND OMFG FRENCH REVOLUTION WEREWOLVES. THUS ALL THE BEHEADINGS OF THE ARISTOCRATS.

[identity profile] naomi-jay.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 09:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yes! And maybe there's a hue and cry when the new pope is a PUNY HUMAN! And so Henry can be all "see, I was right! Burn the churches!"

[identity profile] dwg.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
And even going backwards, there's funtimes with Robin Hood werewolves! (Crusader wolves omfg), the Romans vs Saxons with the beserkers because you know the Saxons would be down with werewolfiness, and possibly King Arthur wanted werewolf equality for everyone. Half the nobles would be like HALE NO because they're werewolves and therefore special, but the rest would be like "You know, we can find some awesome knights with the peasants," and idk maybe there's a plot to wolf the entire kingdom, which is a fine idea but also highly problematic. I AM NOT MAKING ANY SENSE BUT IT'S ALL VERY EXCITING.

This is all plenty of ammo for Henry to justify his actions. Funtimes later if Henry Fitzroy is legitimised, as Elizabeth would probably still be relegated to princess and possibly declared illegitimate when Anne is executed/fallen out of favour? And then something happens with Henry and Elizabeth gets to avoid execution and take the throne.

[identity profile] naomi-jay.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 09:53 am (UTC)(link)
I'm so excited! Even though I now have to do a ton of research to refresh my memory on Tudor history (I did it for my A-Levels, but that feels such a long time ago!). I need to write this novel. I already have a title and a basic plot in mind.

And then, yeah, there would be short story tie-ins and sequels! And eventually I'd write my WWI trench warfare werewolf story.

But, the Tudors. Yes. I figure the Boleyns would keep manoeuvring to get Henry Fitzroy out of Elizabeth's way after Anne's death, possibly by casting some doubt on his paternity? Or even the fact that he's not a werewolf, so can't possibly be considered for the throne. So maybe Henry VIII is all "oh noes, my only son, a puny human! What is a king to do?" and hurriedly marries Katherine Howard even though she's a total airhead and Anne hated her. In fact, Anne hating her might even be an incentive to marry her! And he gets her up the duff - or so he thinks! But she was having so many affairs it's impossible to tell who the father is, so he's no better off anyway!

OMG. I'm exhausted.

[identity profile] wtfbrain.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 10:36 am (UTC)(link)
Clearly, Henry becomes a vampire and is therefore ineligible to take the throne. *cough*

[identity profile] wtfbrain.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 10:37 am (UTC)(link)
OMFG SO MUCH YES TO ALL OF THIS. Unff, I luff your brain.

[identity profile] naomi-jay.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
LMAO. I might buck the trend and have him decide he'd rather go have sexy adventures with BBF Mark Smeaton.

[identity profile] naomi-jay.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
^_^ My brain luffs you!

[identity profile] tezmilleroz.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 11:39 am (UTC)(link)
You must! If not for you, then for the sake of your country ;-)

[identity profile] dwg.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 12:37 pm (UTC)(link)
AHHH just think of all the fun scandal you can have with the upper eschelons of the nobles trying to keep hush-hush about Henry's proclivities while the older set tut-tut and mutter how it's a good thing Henry VIII is dead. Oh, he would be so ashamed of his only son turning out this way. And then Henry can flip everyone off and have his sexy adventures while Liz is like, the only competant monarch left and nobody's giving her the time of day until she rips out someone's throat.

I have no idea what Spain is doing in any of this, unless Philip is pissed that Henry's run off and decided not to marry the wee!Isabella, and extra chagrin because Liz is rockin' the single ladies gig.

[identity profile] naomi-jay.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, no Mary rules out the Spain-England alliance. Maybe Phillip's first wife survives childbirth and they just sit back and watch Europe self-destruct while they laugh happily and drink Spanish wine because their country is already off to colonise America a few years ahead of schedule?

[identity profile] naomi-jay.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
For my country, I will do it!

[identity profile] dwg.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Though, they probably wouldn't be so down with deforestation for the armada. Course, then there's the question of the Inquisition and this is where my brain just goes LOL BORGIAS! But that's getting far too ahead of myself. But you're right, Europe would be self-destructing, but then that's when the Inquisition and witch hunts begin. PEASANTRY STRIKES BACK!

[identity profile] bright-lilim.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 01:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, please! Sounds awesome!

[identity profile] naomi-jay.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 01:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I know I shouldn't, but I heart the Borgias. God, imagine how much worse Rome would have been if Alexander VI was a werewolf. All those orgies in the Vatican would just be that much messier.

[identity profile] naomi-jay.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It's gonna happen ^_^

[identity profile] dwg.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 01:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel the same way! The Borgias certainly made things interesting. I keep giggling that if Alexander VI was a werewolf, Assassin's Creed II just got way more crackish. Specially in the wake of glowy aliens in the Vatican basement and the Pope's staff having magical powers.

[identity profile] naomi-jay.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
O_o Why aren't I playing that game right now?!

[identity profile] dwg.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
YOU SHOULD! Feudal Italy! Ezio stabs dudes a lot and is just like Batman only bitchier because he kills people! And has an epic bromance with Leonardo DaVinci! The Battle of the Vanities is DLC! Rodrigo Borgia is your arch nemesis so the final level is sneaking into the Vatican during mass -- and you have to sneak through a bunch of monks to avoid being detected -- and then you go into the Sistene Chapel, and I'm terribly fond of walking out on the plank above the pulpit and leaping down to stab Rodrigo in the neck. Because vast heights + killing dudes = WIN!

[identity profile] crystalwaid.blogspot.com (from livejournal.com) 2010-05-28 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I still have the first season I haven't even watched yet!! Lol! Here's my new blog if u ever want to come over, lol!

[identity profile] shistavanenjedi.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
The plot might be good as a high fantasy instead. Most novels with werewolves these days tend to be of the urban fantasy kind. I'm not sure how your historical fiction readers would take it.

[identity profile] naomi-jay.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I know there are a few paranormal historicals with werewolves in them, but from what I can gather, they're Regency era, and sort of light on the actual paranormal angle.

[identity profile] cherith.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG, please do this. Something about being named Elizabeth makes me a little obsessive about the Tudors. Werewolf Tudors? *dies*

[identity profile] cherith.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Oi, spoilers. :) Still I wholeheartedly agree! Everyone should play AC II because it's amazing and beautiful and there's Borgias and Medicis and Leonardo da Vinci! (And oh! I need a AC II icon! *cries*)

[identity profile] dwg.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
HUSH. YOU WILL SEE WHEN YOU GET THERE. There's...nothing I can really say to prepare you for that final boss fight.

[identity profile] blythe025.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I love the complexities of that. Sounds like a totally awesome novel or series. I'm sure several books could come out of all the complex twisted intrigues of the court. Awesome idea. :)

[identity profile] wtfbrain.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmmm, om nom nom.

[identity profile] laburton.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Love the idea. I found out that I'm related to the Boleyns.

[identity profile] naomi-jay.livejournal.com 2010-05-30 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol, it will be awesome, I promise you!

[identity profile] naomi-jay.livejournal.com 2010-05-30 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I ... uh ... may already have at least two books in mind, focusing on Anne Boleyn. Then after that, everything just gets insane.

[identity profile] naomi-jay.livejournal.com 2010-05-30 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember you saying! That's very cool.

[identity profile] laburton.livejournal.com 2010-05-30 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
You should look at Ancestory.co. I found out that I'm from strong British backgrond. Just think we may be related.

[identity profile] naomi-jay.livejournal.com 2010-05-31 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
Lol, my ancestors were from Ireland, Lincoln, and East Anglia. Think they were busy farming whilst yours were gliding around the Tudor court!

[identity profile] laburton.livejournal.com 2010-06-01 12:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I also have family that came from Ireland.

[identity profile] naomi-jay.livejournal.com 2010-06-01 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Cool, there may be a link somewhere then!

[identity profile] blythe025.livejournal.com 2010-06-01 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
lol. Insane could be FABulous. :)